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John Sebastian Ferrari posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 1 month ago · View
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One of the problems I have with prospective web related jobs is that I am always unsure of what level potential employers expect in terms of knowledge. I have become over the course of this semester pretty adept with a range of technology, but not to the point where I feel I could be called an expert. Yet more and more often I realize that my skill level may be more than adequate for the job in question. Part of the problem is that it is never obvious which side of the dividing line a potential employ is in terms of technology. Being raised with computers, I take a number of skills for granted and do not see them as special or complex in anyway. Recently however it has come to my attention that I have been underselling my competency with technology to many potential employers. The one nice thing about this class has been that technology seems so much closer to what I consider to be my ability level. Rather than shy away from jobs that advertise a need for technological prowess, I take a second look as realize that in many cases positions I had written off as being about my ability are actually well below what I am capable of. -
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Lian Sze posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 1 month ago · View
I think that one of the keywords that come up frequently these days when searching for library jobs is technology. However, I think that the traditional skills that one learns in library school is still important, because it helps a librarian choose the technologies that will fit their community, instead of just jumping on the technology train without true understanding of their community or their tools.
This article for ALA Office for Information Technology Policy does a good job in presenting technologies and their possible usage at the library: http://www.ala.org/ala/aboutala/offices/oitp/publications/policybriefs/ala_checking_out_the.pdf.
Another thing that I think libraries often forget when they are hiring is if the person they hire will fit in with the rest of the team. A person might have a lot of technological skills, but if they do not have the social skills to help the rest of the library team with their technological questions, it could make the work environment uncomfortable. Especially for those working in an academic library and might have to do instruction work, these librarians need to be able to translate their technological skills into something that they can teach others. -
Patricia Dantis posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 1 month ago · View
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When I decided that I wanted to go to back to school to become a librarian. I envisioned myself in youth services performing reference, creating programming, and instructing users. Sure, I knew that there was definitely a technical aspect to the job, but I never imagined that I would be learning how to design web pages or about social media/networks. Libraries have changed so much since I stopped using them for more than just picking up and dropping off borrowed books. I guess I should have realized how techie libraries had become when CPL began letting patrons put books on hold through its website. It makes sense that there are more and more LIS jobs that are web focused or that require web savvy. Not only does technology help accessibility, but it also helps reach nonusers. As Michael Edson stated in his interview with Michael Stephens on ALA TechSource (http://www.alatechsource.org/blog/2010/08/interview-with-michael-edson.html), “How can [a] director justify *not* finding resources to start connecting with the 4+ billion people who use the Internet or the thousands of people in your local community who are online too?”Over half way through the MLIS program, I realize that the emerging technologies libraries are leveraging is one of the most exciting and interesting parts of my studies. It is refreshing to be entering a profession that understands the importance of embracing change and preparing its future professionals with practical assignments (see “Goals of an LIS Educator” http://www.libraryjournal.com/lj/ljinprintcurrentissue/887408-403/office_hours_november_15_2010.html.csp).My profession choice is constantly questioned by my friends; they wonder if libraries are still relevant in the digital age…I’ll be sure to tell them to check out my library’s online presence and digital resources once I’ve joined the workforce.
Over half way through the MLIS program, I realize that the emerging technologies libraries are leveraging is one of the most exciting and interesting parts of my studies. It is refreshing to be entering a profession that understands the importance of embracing change and preparing its future professionals with practical assignments (see “Goals of an LIS Educator” http://www.libraryjournal.com/lj/ljinprintcurrentissue/887408-403/office_hours_november_15_2010.html.csp).My profession choice is constantly questioned by my friends; they wonder if libraries are still relevant in the digital age…I’ll be sure to tell them to check out my library’s online presence and digital resources once I’ve joined the workforce.- Lisa West · 1 year, 1 month ago
You’re not the only one. Some people I tell I’m in an MLIS program haven’t been to a library in decades and didn’t even know that people still went to them! I just try to tell them all of the fun, cool stuff you can do both at the library and online through the library and hope to get them to go back.
- Elaine Mernick · 1 year, 1 month ago
I agree that some of the aspects of librarianship I’m most excited about now are ones I barely even knew existed when I started the program. There are so many great ways to incorporate technology to enhance what we do and how we share information with others that people simply don’t realize. I like your attitude toward the doubters – let their comments motivate you to prove them wrong by building a strong digital presence!
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thillier posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 2 months ago · View
Looking at the Villa Park ad is very interesting, as while not as technical, most library positions are going to have to have a solid working electronic & web background. While libraries have a stereotype of having shelves and shelves of books, this attitude is changing. In order to stay relevant, libraries are turning to having more and more electronically qualified staff. The article that stood out to me was the “They didn’t have jobs like this…” article found at: http://www.lisjobs.com/liminal/2006/06/they-didnt-have-jobs-like-this-when-i.html
Like most everyone who has already responded, I think one of the most important aspects of being a professional is keeping up to speed with the changing world of your given field. Technology is huge in librarianship, even if your job isn’t technology exclusive.
I found the following sites that offer different online workshops to sharpen different skills in librarianship. What I liked about these sites is the layout of the different sites that broke down the different topics, some of which were somewhat surprising. Some of the courses/workshops offered require memberships to the organizations, however, some allow guest access. I liked the ALA site for index, under the Professional Education Committee, for an initial look at what types of continuing education programs are available. What I found to be very helpful was a breakdown by state as to what programming was provided by different library organizations such as the Illinois Library Association.
http://wikis.ala.org/acrl/index.php?title=IS/CEcentral
The link below is for various library organizations that provide different courses and are broken down by the organization (ex. YALSA).
http://classes.ala.org/
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michael posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 2 months ago · View
Hey all – Take a look at http://joblist.ala.org/modules/jobseeker/Librarian-with-Emerging-Technology-Emphasis/16716.cfm
Emerging tech job!
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kelly posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 2 months ago · View
Posting #2
I have worked in Youth Services for over two years, and something I have noticed is that at least a third of my on desk time is used helping patrons with computer related questions. What’s really interesting to me is that many people outside of my profession have this idea that kids and teens are all technologically savvy, and in many cases this is far from the truth. I cannot emphasize enough how much of my job is spent showing kids how to make presentations in PowerPoint for school, how to use spell check, how to attach a file to an email, etc. What’s especially interesting about this is that when I initially applied for the job, there really wasn’t anything in the job description to indicate how much I would be helping people perform basic computer related tasks. I hadn’t really thought much about this until I read the posting at http://www.lisjobs.com/liminal/2006/06/they-didnt-have-jobs-like-this-when-i.html that reads, “If your library is hiring soon, maybe it’s time for you to take a look at existing job descriptions and whether they need to be revised in light of changing duties, requirements, technologies, and patron expectations.” There is a lot of truth to this. Even if you are not the designated person from your department who is in charge of web maintenance, facebook and blog postings, there is still a good chance that you will be dealing with TONS of questions related to these topics at the desk, and patrons will expect that you know the answers. And not only will they ask you how to update their facebook status, but also really random things like how to use this graphing calculator or Kindle or camera that someone gave them for their birthday. The lesson that this has taught me is that there is absolutely no technologically oriented subject out there that is not worth learning about or becoming comfortable with, because someone will ask you about it eventually and will assume that you are familiar with it. The articles we read did a great job pointing out how many more Web 2.0 jobs are opening up in our field, but I think it is also important to remember that even if a job is not a “Web 2.0 job”, that doesn’t mean you won’t need Web 2.0 knowledge to do it well. -
Lauren Balliet posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 2 months ago · View
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While not a library, King Arthur Flour is a company that uses 2.0 technology extremely effectively. I started out as a Facebook fan because I am ferociously loyal and wanted to spread the word about their awesome flour (http://www.facebook.com/#!/kingarthurflour), even if it meant the occasional update I didn’t think I’d care about (I think this was in the early days of Facebook fan pages, when for the first time, there was an actual person updating the page instead of a list of fans). They mentioned having a Twitter page, and since I was new to Twitter (and thought it was information overload central, but instructors kept insisting it was important without really explaining how or why), I decided what the heck and followed their Twitter page (http://twitter.com/kingarthurflour). I noticed that they posted photos of their products in action and links to their blog (http://www.kingarthurflour.com/blog/), and I started reading the comments, printing out recipes, and memorizing their baking tips. Since they started mentioning their daily cafe specials (http://www.kingarthurflour.com/ourstore/), I’m planning a road trip to their Vermont store, where I will inevitably drain my bank account on scone pans and Fiore di Sicilia (http://www.kingarthurflour.com/browse/secret-ingredients/).
I have to admit I wasn’t sold on Library 2.0 for a long time, but KAF’s ability to catch my attention, to bounce seamlessly from one tool to the next, and their lack of obvious self-promotion has shown me that yes, it can work, and no, you won’t be throwing yourself at patrons and alienating them. Multiple bakers write the blog entries, but one of the bloggers also seems to control all of the social media, and she actively responds to blog comments, Facebook wall posts, and Twitter mentions, simultaneously sharing event photos on Facebook and responding to user photos (most of their photos have been uploaded by fans, and most page activity is conversations between fans). I guess I first viewed Library 2.0 as a one-sided marketing campaign. I was wrong. It’s really about organizing an online community where librarians and patrons are equals, where you share your common interests and even passions without the boundaries of age, race, gender, dialect, appearance, employment status, disabilities, or anything that impedes face to face interaction. Marketing is merely a by-product.
Maybe I’ve been awake too long at this point and I’m veering from the topic of web jobs, but it’s certainly a nice ideal, and one that requires a very human person or team of persons dedicated to managing the tools that guide that community. It could be a Facebook page that displays tagged photos of the youth Super Smash Brothers tournament, an Omeka-powered website where users can comment on audio clips of your oral history project (http://omeka.org/, another goody from LIS 881), or a comment-enabled blog where you show photos of the latest sci-fi novels on your shelves and link to the author’s Wikipedia page. It’s the connection with other living, breathing humans that are going to make these technologies effective. And isn’t it one of our goals to bring people together so that we might share and learn from each other? Maybe it’s just my own experience, but it seems the Internet has evolved to a place where we are more comfortable than ever to show who we are, instead of fearfully guarding our identities behind screen names as we did in the days of AOL Instant Messenger. We share videos on YouTube of our kids doing silly kid things and our acoustic Radiohead covers, we use our Facebook accounts to comment on Slate columns, and we shamelessly tweet our excitement over the newest DiCaprio movie, then link it all together. This is absolutely our prime opportunity to make meaningful connections with our patrons outside of the library walls.
- Lisa West · 1 year, 2 months ago
I also really like KAF. You should also try freshly milled flour. I was having trouble making sourdough French bread with homemade starter when a friend brought some over-the difference was unbelievable. Unfortunately, I don’t make that kind of bread enough to warrant purchasing a grain mill. If you haven’t ever gone, you should also check out the Wilton factory outlet sale http://www.wilton.com/events/index.cfm. The parking and crowds are crazy, but the prices are unbelievable.
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Anna Ha posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 2 months ago · View
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I think it’s crucial for librarians to be knowledgeable about web technologies or even just curious and willing to experiment with them. The skills acquired and topics discussed in courses like this one will help librarians provide seamless delivery of information and/or services to their patrons. It could be via social media platforms, mobile devices, or just by making the library website more interactive and user-friendly; an understanding of technology and experience with web design inspire librarians to think of innovative ideas as well as implement them. Sometimes we hear of the disconnect between IT staff and librarians, but I think that with more and more librarians getting into the tech side of things, there’s an opportunity to bridge that gap and for collaboration on digital initiatives.
I had heard the term library 2.0 tossed around for a while, but until I took LIS768 last semester, I had no idea that social media could be so powerful and provide so many opportunities for libraries. As Michael states in his column, “Anyone can write a blog post touting the library’s next event…” Web tools are not being utilized effectively if it’s just one-sided; they should be used to open up the conversation to patrons, get feedback, and build relationships. I happened to run across this article the other day about an embedded librarian, who was using Twitter to help students with subject specific research (http://bit.ly/fmPfsM).
Finally, I just want to mention how valuable the “personal learning network” is for making connections, being informed on current issues in the field, and staying involved in the community. I’ll admit that if I weren’t on Twitter, I would not be as tuned into the current conversation about the Harper Collins/Overdrive debacle. For those interested, here is a site I stumbled upon that has archived all the tweets regarding the topic (http://bit.ly/dMRcZi).
- Jenn Hovanec · 1 year, 2 months ago
Not to make a GLEE reference here, but there was a recent episode where Gwyneth Paltrow (substitute teacher, Holly Holiday) said, ”When a student does something I think is great, I tweet them about it. For those few seconds, those kids not only hear praise, but they can see it.” Though the show is fictional, I think that idea is so important; many of the techologies out there are, in fact, tangible like that. There’s a generation of library patrons right now who are looking for this comfort from their libraries…to not be, as you said, ”…knowledgable, curious or willing” to use those technologies is to leave them out.
- Kristen Adomovicz · 1 year, 2 months ago
Thank you for sharing Jeff Krager’s Library Babble site! I’m not currently on Twitter and it’s definitely making me think about joining. It seems like such a great way to stay updated.
- Elaine Mernick · 1 year, 2 months ago
I think you make a great point about bridging the gap between librarians and the tech folks. In past jobs, I have worked very closely with IT people on specific projects, and learned through experience how much of a difference a positive working relationship can have. By collaborating with people on projects for which we have different but overlapping frames of reference, we’ll be able to achieve bigger and better things. I think a major point this stems from is respect for your collaborators, and by coming in to projects with IT professionals with a broad tech background of our own, we’ll be better able to build this respect.
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Daphne Nichole Sidor posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 2 months ago · View
Especially in smaller libraries, I’ve noticed that many library jobs today require a wide range of staff members to participate in marketing and outreach efforts such as blogs and social media presences (rather than assigning such functions solely to a marketing or web development department); this has been the case with at least one non-degree-requiring position I’ve interviewed for in the past few months. (In the end someone else was hired, but I’d have loved to do it, and it was nice to get a sort of case study of how one library is using social media.) This may have the effect of both deepening staff members’ sense of involvement with their library and showcasing a range of more personal voices from their library to patrons.
In working with a library’s web presence, it’s frequently necessary to go beyond designing for the web as a medium and consider the devices on which content will be accessed: I noticed that several ads specifically mentioned applications for handheld devices. Because the pace of change in this area is so rapid, some underlying skills may be as important as knowledge of specific technologies: the desire to keep learning and the ability to think critically in order to assess the value of tools which, because they have just emerged, may not yet be of proven value. A few of the job postings in Michael’s slideshow make mention of this, and I feel that those, especially, would be libraries I’d like to work in.
As to finding inspiration on a larger level, I loved reading about the Smithsonian Commons project. It presents a model of a web presence that is both enormously rich on its own terms and an excellent enhancement/enticement to the physical institution it represents. I’ll be interested to watch it develop. And any library can take to heart Michael Edson’s remark: “I have yet to hear of a collection area, a topic, or even a single idea that doesn’t already have an active online audience surrounding it.” Thinking creatively in today’s web-related LIS jobs might mean finding ways to reach out to those online audiences that already exist.
- Elaine Mernick · 1 year, 2 months ago
I also loved reading about the Smithsonian Commons – I had no idea how much potential a tool like that had. I thought it was great that they included videos for how different types of users could find value in the site. I’m definitely keeping it in the back of my mind for all the ways I could work with teachers in a school library to use the Smithsonian Commons to enhance lessons.
- Daphne Nichole Sidor · 1 year, 1 month ago
(This was posting #2.)
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Anna Kim posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 2 months ago · View
Post #2
When I applied for this program, I never imagined that I would become so heavily invested in technology and digital media. Though I knew that librarianship would be more than just reading and shelving books, I only had a vague idea of what to expect from the program and what would be expected of me as an MLIS student.
Only last semester, when I took 724 (Media Services and Production), did I start thinking about how technology is becoming much more intertwined with education. This semester, I’m taking 768 along with 753 and it is much more apparent that education will be shaped by the new technologies and digital tools that are being created and unveiled almost daily.
Outside of the obvious tools and social media platforms (Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Flickr, etc.), it’s important that we keep up with what’s coming out in the future. A librarian who has been hired with the expectation that s/he has a “working knowledge of blogs, wikis, online gaming environments, podcasting, RSS and other Web-related technologies” (http://tametheweb.com/2006/01/wayne_state_university_blogwik.html) must not fall into the trap of complacency. We’re learning some of the tools that are being used now, but we also need to learn the skills that will enable us to maintain relevance in the future. -
Phyllis Kastle posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 2 months ago · View
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As several others have touched on, there seems to be no real standard in defining a 2.0 type of position. The lack of consistency between institutions in job descriptions, titles, and pay makes it hard to compare these emerging roles. ALA would certainly be well suited to define some of these roles or responsibilities. I see most of these smaller tools (blog, wiki, facebook manager, etc) as additions to the reference tool kit, not secular tools to be learned and run by separate staff.At a higher level, the lack of priority to technology is hugely detrimental to users. In taking the RDA seminar and participating in the ongoing discussions between participating test libraries, the biggest problem I saw was the total misunderstanding of what a relational database is, and how an OPAC works. Without all players knowing how the data is stored and recalled how can we have an honest discussion of the pros and cons of changing metadata coding standards or using a more open tagging system? Without librarians understanding that most frustrations are with the software, not the structure of the metadata itself, a large scale change won’t be possible.
If library administrators and directors are open to learning about the underlying technology, integrating technology can become a base for advancement, not a parallel alternative to the status quo. If tech matters are only allotted a part time position, the best talent won’t seeks out your library or stay for very long.
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KAReed posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 2 months ago · View
Post #1
I have been reading job descriptions for librarians for the last year. I imagine myself in the library environment that is described. I try to imagine what the daily work for the advertised position might be like. I worked in a library many years ago behind the circulation desk where we squinted at the orange and dirt GEAC system on big box screens and marveled at our modern technology. The job descriptions for librarians who can be responsible for “technology” vary and are sometimes confusing. First, the positions that require the librarian to handle the website and web 2.0 have a wide variety of titles that are being made up in the absence of a standardized list of positions. Second, there are a range of functional specializations that are placed under the broad category of digital or Internet based science, For examples, functional descriptions like digital archive specialist, webmaster, social networking specialist or programmer are specific in the technical knowledge they represent. An award winning local library advertised an open position for a computer programmer with a degree in computer programming. I believe they could use someone who is a web designer with experience in XHTML, flash, plug ins and a range of interactive tools to freshen up their pages. Jenny Levine in The Liminal Librarian noted some new job titles like wiki specialist, technology innovation manager and virtual manager (http://www.lisjobs.com/liminal/2006/06/they-didnt-have-jobs-like-this-when-i.html ). Perhaps the American Library Association could help the dictionary of occupational titles make a standardized set of recognized occupations with a range of defined functional activities for each one. The workplace and the worlds that Americans live in on a daily basis demand that we are connected in new ways to systems supported by the Internet and advanced tools. Michael Stephens in Goals of an LIS Educator described structuring classes where students learn by doing. This develops new skill sets that are necessary for librarians to keep pace with changes in technology in the information environment. The future librarian must be flexible in his or her technology habits and he or she must be a lifelong learner who builds communities and understands that social networks are composed of people using tools in spaces that they control (http://www.libraryjournal.com/lj/ljinprintcurrentissue/887408-403/office_hours_november_15_2010.html.csp). Change comes to the world, but for many people culture lags. In the Interview with Michael Edson from the Smithsonian Institution, he recalls being the inside authority figure who delivers the news to the unconverted world of institutions. Libraries and cultural institutions must adapt and adopt to the Internet and virtual worlds or the public will be more active in organizations that are connected. Quote, “I’m trying to build a case for greater Institutional focus on Web and new media by showing that many of our beloved Institutions just aren’t as relevant and useful as we think they are.” (http://www.alatechsource.org/blog/2010/08/interview-with-michael-edson.html ). That message sounds harsh, but compare a library with an advanced community interface like the Skokie Public Library, or university libraries with their new clouds hovering over the Hathi Trust and OCLC like Northwestern of Chicago, to a library with just a local circulation catalog and the Internet to surf alone. There are different worlds being build around the scale, scope and sophistication of the uses of technology that will define how information and experience evolve in the future. Will other assumptions about what kind of degree you hold have influence on who fills the role of “technology librarian? Lifelong learners of the world unite, you have communities to build, networks to sustain, the next release of applied technology to test in the next generation of toolkit. -
Annie Baumann posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 2 months ago · View
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What’s particularly striking, at least to me, about this module’s readings is the presence of these techy-type library jobs five years ago. Some of the links included in this module are to job postings or comments from 2006. I am fully aware that many people were involved in social media in 2006, I know I was, and that many, many people had awesome web-building skills, but what’s surprising to me is that tech-savvy librarians and tech-skills were sought after by (presumably) many libraries. Many rural public libraries near my hometown still don’t have a web presence, let alone an OPAC.
Ever since I started library school, I’ve been hearing or reading about the end of the library profession. Although I’ve always thought these doomsday scenarios were kind of naive, I have been secretly fearing what my professional prospects will be come graduation (and ten years from now). But, as our society changes and becomes more technologically inclined (and thus more independent), the library profession has adjusted, sometimes a step ahead of the general public, and this is reflected in the job postings for librarians.
The “What else is an MLIS good for?” post on MetaFilter was particularly interesting. I have unexpectedly found myself in somewhat of the same situation – I now have an infant daughter who requires my constant attention. A whole new set of worries have hit me since her arrival – will I be employable if I have to take a hiatus immediately after graduation to care for Ada, and will employers be understanding about my obligations to my new family? I had never considered all the possible positions for which a GSLIS graduate could qualify. I like the idea of MLIS degree holding professionals working as freelance indexers, researchers, and social media consultants.
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Elaine Mernick posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 2 months ago · View
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I think you’d be hard pressed to find someone who would argue with the notion that technology is changing librarianship. But at its root, as others have pointed out, the profession’s goals have remained the same: providing access to information. It’s just that access has become more complex. It’s not enough anymore for a library to open its doors and say, “We’re here – stop on by if you need us!” With so much competition for people’s time and attention, we need to offer broader access by taking our information to the people. One of the ideas from the reading on this topic that I liked most was the concept that “content, use and community are inseparable” (from the Smithsonian Commons Millennial video: http://www.si.edu/commons/prototype/story3/story3.html). We also need to go beyond traditional definitions of content in reaching out to our communities and defining new uses for our services.
Today, going where the people are means to go online. In a time in which more kids know how to use a smart phone than tie their shoelaces (seriously: http://www.seattlepi.com/lifestyle/434010_kids24.html), we’re only going to continue to see rapid evolution in the number and type of sites people are using and patrons’ comfort with technology. It’s refreshing to see libraries understanding that this is an area with great potential and hiring specialists to reach out in these new areas. However, we’re reaching a point where technology has so permeated how we do business that even librarians not going into those specialized jobs must be pseudo-experts in more and more types of technology.
As I see it, there are two kinds of technology training we could receive in library school: learning to use specific new technologies; and building an understanding of how to locate and learn new technologies as they arise. The first method might prepare students to find a job right out of school, with a few handy tech skills in their back pocket to show off in interviews. However, the latter will prepare students with a mindset of constantly looking to pick up new technology that can somehow be applied to a job and used to improve the way we provide access to our patrons. Only by feeling comfortable enough with the constant influx of new technology to give something a try will we be able to keep up with the latest skills and trends throughout our careers. While this may seem easier said than done, I think one good way to do it is to incorporate technology within the curriculum throughout our MLIS program. Taking classes that teach specific technologies are great – we learn useful skills that look great on a resume and make us more comfortable with technology in general – but we could build on this even more by seeing and acting on applications of new technology all throughout our learning process. I think the comfort level that would bring could be one of the most valuable components in preparing us to meet the inevitably growing technological demands of the library job market.
- KAReed · 1 year, 2 months ago
Elaine, you point to the need for education to empower individuals to remain open to new knowledge in your post. It reminded me of Michael’s article on being an LIS Educator. I gree with your curriculum ideas.
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Mackenzie posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 3 months ago · View
Posting #2
I have to say, I am glad to see that there are so many more web/tech orientated jobs for librarians now. It is nice to see that libraries are realizing how necessary it is to have a dedicated person to maintain their web presence etc instead of expecting a reference librarian to write blog posts or update the website amidst their other duties. Or to expect the IT person maintain the website while assisting with every computer problem that arises. Although it means a new skill set for librarians, I am glad there’s recognition that this area is rapidly growing in importance.
That being said, this module has added to my increasing awareness of all the things I don’t know yet. I’ve been very appreciative of my LIS classes that go beyond using Blackboard or handouts. I really like the use of Twitter in classes. I may not take the time to post a link on Blackboard, but it’s easy to share it on Twitter since I’m already there anyway. After learning Google Sites in 704, I’ve used it in other classes to great effect. Even though the point of the class wasn’t to learn how to use it, taking that hour to figure out how everything works is so beneficial. Many of my classmates in Digital Libraries have expressed an interest in learning the practical/technical aspects of digital projects, not just the theory. Thankfully our professor has an IT background and can provide a lot of the nitty gritty for us to learn. Even if I don’t know about all the content management systems out there, at least I have a foundation, much like this class and HTML etc. But I agree with Michael’s Office Hours columns, it doesn’t always seem like it goes far enough. I didn’t have room in my schedule for the RDA seminar, but I would have liked to spend more than 5 minutes on it in class. Sometimes I wonder if operating on quarters would allow for a wider intake of knowledge. Again, I don’t have room in my schedule for a class devoted entirely to serials management or library automation, but having some background in them would be beneficial before hitting the job market. Sorry about the “they don’t teach you this in library school” rant, but as I near the end of my time in school, I start to worry about having learned enough with the opportunities that school provides.
- Annie Baumann · 1 year, 2 months ago
I don’t think you are alone in your worries. The LIS program seems either too short, or, like you mention, the semester system may not work for this program. If a student wants to dabble in children’s literature, web design, reference, and cataloging, he or she would have to be in school for almost four years to get an adequate education to qualify for a position in any of the specialties (youth services, social media librarian, reference services, cataloging, etc).
Maybe that’s just the nature of school – just as you begin to understand how much you don’t know, you are thrust into the job market. I remember feeling the same way as I was completing my undergraduate degree. - KAReed · 1 year, 2 months ago
Mackenzie, you hit on one of my major anxieties. Everyone Twitters but me. I just never enjoyed the twitter and tweet. I had to do it anyway because everyone else was on Twitter, and if I am going to do any business or marketing, Twitter is a must. So I twitter, tweet, adapt, and I must follow the crowd. As a teacher, I am aware that most students expect information to be in available via the spaces and tools they use. I am considering placing course information on Twitter to get their attention about calendar events like the midterm.
- Phyllis Kastle · 1 year, 2 months ago
i totally agree with your concern that we are spread too thin, or not thin enough?? The disparity in communication tools used between classes has a been a frustration of mine through the program (blog, blackboard, paper handouts only) but is certainly more similar to real life communication with real employees than the streamlined efficiency we hope in early December while writing papers, finishing projects and going to work.
- Anna Ha · 1 year, 2 months ago
i’m also in the digital libraries course this semester, and i was a bit perplexed when the professor admitted that she didn’t even want to have class in a computer lab. but i thought it was really great that she actually listened to what the class wanted (the practical/technical side) and was pretty flexible about adjusting the coursework to fit those needs. it seems like sometimes students aren’t given the opportunity for feedback about the course/their needs until evaluations at the end of the semester, which doesn’t really do them much good at that point…
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Jenn Hovanec posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 3 months ago · View
To ignore Youth Services when speaking about LIS Jobs is to cut the library profession off at the foot. In the recent past, libraries have admitted fearing that adults could find their information anywhere other than the library. However, what we need to consider is that Youth Services patrons are now just as much a part of that group. Technology is a way of life from the time that children are in the womb. It’s been said over and over…yet, it’s not a cliché. For years, the expansion of technology in our daily lives has just as quickly reached younger and younger generations. We can see it in the toys we buy newborns; for years, the Baby Einstein video series had parents convinced that their children would be smarter for participating in this technology. If you open a child’s backpack in many of the schools in urban or suburban settings, chances are you’ll find a Smartphone that comes with a plan with a data package. Children today are able to operate their Wii videogames before they have the cognitive ability to put sounds and words on a page into a working relationship. While some parents are nervous, as the parent base gets younger, technology becomes more prominent. This article (http://www.mainstreet.com/article/smart-spending/technology/baby-steps-81-infants-have-digital-footprint) shows that parents out there are knowingly making technology a part of their toddler’s lives. GSLIS is doing the right thing by us: teaching us how to build websites, market and incorporate technology into our programming. Like our Adult Services counterparts, MLIS candidates who’ve been focusing on a Youth Services career path have been taught that in order to connect with our base, we need to embrace technology.
However, I’m a fan of calling a spade a spade. Michael Stephens’ presentation he references this article (http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/article/CA6545430.html) on the exclusion of Youth Services in favor of Adult Services in the definitions of librarian’s core competencies. Maybe in past generations, this was true. Maybe you could focus on the Adult Services being the core of librarianship. But, the role of Youth Services has expanded greatly. In Youth Services, we’re facing a huge challenge in two major disconnects: our patrons’ expectations versus those of our boss. We’re coming from school with a degree fresh in and hand all of these amazing technology-laden ideas to sell to our new boss. Our new boss, however, has been in practice for years. He likes relegating children’s programming to the valuable story time and maybe (just maybe) a single Teen Gaming Night. He may even see that promoting the library via technologies like Twitter or Facebook is too harmful for children. Then, you’re on the desk. Teens are asking if they can find you on these social networking technologies; adults talk about following other libraries on their RSS Feeds. What are we supposed to say to this? When we promise we’ll talk to bosses, or that we’ll try to get something started, how can we face these disappointed faces? It’s not a lack of capability; it’s a desire to avoid culpability.- Anna Kim · 1 year, 2 months ago
I never thought I would say this, but through this program, I have actually become MORE interested in Youth Services. Learning about the new web and digital tools is really exciting because those are the same technologies that teens are using and if we want to reach them, we need to interact with them on their level.
- Phyllis Kastle · 1 year, 2 months ago
i didn’t have a particular interest in youth services when i started the program wither, but having spent more time around kids the past few years, I’m very excited that the digital divide is so quickly shrinking. I had to learn how to use a computer in the 80s. my son just knows how it all works! (whoa, that sounded REALLY old) But, the fact remains that connected kids are easier to reach. The library just has to work fast to reach them first, and build a pattern of using the library services into their school habits as they grow.
- Lisa West · 1 year, 2 months ago
I agree that youth services are still important. OCLC’s report, from Awareness to Funding http://www.oclc.org/reports/funding/default.htm has some interesting insights into how people feel about libraries and how that relates to funding. The strongest adult library supporters had a positive and strong connection to a library/librarian as a child (pg. 5-4, 5-5). Politicians also advised that a library referendum was more likely to pass if it focused on its broader value to the community. This includes programs for teenagers (pg. 3-13). So, even if the ”boss” won’t support youth services because it is the right thing to do, maybe she/he can be convinced to support youth services because that is where community support and therefore money comes from.
- Jenn Hovanec · 1 year, 2 months ago
Technology is not a passing fad. The patrons know it. The young library recruits know it…how do we get ALL libraries to follow it, though? Sure, there are some core things that the library will always have available, but I think many libraries are fearful of opening themselves up to new technologies. If you notice even on Facebook, there are many libraries who post about their activities and offerings…but there is no open-ended conversation. Not too many people are posting comments because the user has not allowed them to do so for fear of backlash or lawsuit-worthy comments. Are libraries really embracing the technology, then? It’s a perplexing thing to think about.
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katelyn posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 3 months ago · View
Post #2
As with all the changing and developing aspects of the library profession concerning copyright that we discussed last week, LIS web jobs is another new and evolving part that evokes discussion. I think many of us thought when we entered library school that we would be behind the desk at our local public library, but after a few classes we all might have begun questioning the value of that job. Many have decided to branch out to the school library media program, archives, special collections, or where ever else. Since graduation is quickly approaching and the job market is not improving, the question that many of us face is: what are we going to do come June? It has been brought to my attention by my mother who is less than tech-savvy, that there are many great web jobs available to a person with an MLIS degree and if she could find them, then they must be out there.
It is good to see that there is a discussion that is occurring about the new technologies and how we as current students should embrace them and move forward hopefully to a place where they want and encourage the use of our knowledge about library 2.0 and web 2.0. One of the articles mentioned libraries and other institutions using twitter, facebook, wordpress, and other social media to reach the millions of internet users. Online only libraries are being developed and many companies desire the skills and competencies we GSLIS students learned to develop their online presence. An article by Lee Raine titled, “The Networked Librarian” describes the new role of the librarian that is emerging http://www.pewinternet.org/Presentations/2011/May/San-Francisco-Public-Library.aspx. The reading that explored the Smithsonian commons described three questions who is it for?, what do they want? And how do you know?, that should be addressed when trying to “grab” someone, which seems now that more and more people are turning to the internet and need to be reached there, may involve social media. As future librarians, I think it is important for us to see and understand the trends that are developing now and the issues that are emerging out of our different user bases in order to understand the many complexities we face and the opportunities that we encounter and how to grab those whose attention we require.- Kristen Adomovicz · 1 year, 2 months ago
Although I agree that library jobs are changing quite a bit, I don’t see public library reference services going anywhere just yet. Although the tools have changed, people still need to be told how to use them. In addition, there are a lot of people out there who enjoy a good book, but may need us to help them find one. When I envision my dream job, I am a Youth Services Librarian who also does graphic/web design and social media. I do think that technology will play a bigger and bigger role in library jobs, but being well-rounded will help us a great deal now and in the future.
- Lisa West · 1 year, 2 months ago
Kristen, i agree with you. Thought the technology and format may have changed, librarian’s skills still need to include the basics of reference and reader’s advisory. I hope you find your dream job!
- Kristen Adomovicz · 1 year, 2 months ago
Thank you!
I hope we all do!
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Kristen Adomovicz posted an update in the group LIS Web Jobs: 1 year, 3 months ago · View
Posting #2
It is always interesting to me to see how a library and its website compare – it says a lot about where their priorities are and who is on their staff. As an example, I recently visited the Lisle Library. I went to their website to look up their address (http://www.lislelibrary.org). Its look is dated and inconsistent (compare the homepage to the Youth Services page at http://www.lislelibrary.org/LLDkids.htm). Needless to say, I wasn’t impressed and my expectations for the library itself were pretty low. Was I ever surprised when I got there! A color palette of light beige, orange-red and light green makes for a warm, welcoming space. Desks, walls and shelving often followed curved lines and there is a lot of room to browse. The wayfinding signage was my favorite –large, thick, modern, all-caps san serifs in brushed metal that clearly labeled everything from the copier to the collection of fine art prints. Its placement and size ensured it could be clearly read from a distance too. Now if only their website would reflect their building’s interior! I am certain they would attract more visitors that way. Interestingly, despite its apparent toils with web design, the Lisle Library seems to be doing fairly well with other technologies. They have a presence on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lisle-Library-District/301729550219) and they post updates to their profile rather frequently. They also have a chat with a librarian service and online book discussion groups (http://www.lislelibrary.org/LLDReaders.HTM#Online%20Discussion%20Groups:). I understand that “traditional” librarians may struggle with emerging technologies, but that is why there is a need for positions like Graphic Designer and Blog/Wiki/RSS/Podcast Librarian (or a combination of both). Check out the blog of self-titled “interdisciplinary librarian” Heather Davis at http://hcddavis.wordpress.com/about/. Heather studied Graphic Design and other arts before getting her MLIS. She uses both of her skill sets at her current position (https://lwtclearningcommons.pbworks.com/w/page/14452320/Heather-Davis).If there is a need for librarians who are proficient in emerging technologies, there is an even greater need for graduate schools to prepare their students with such knowledge. As Michael said in his article, “Goals of an LIS Educator” (http://www.libraryjournal.com/lj/ljinprintcurrentissue/887408-403/office_hours_november_15_2010.html.csp), we need to be prepared for a “decidedly digital future.” Technologies, along with libraries, have changed so much in the past decade and there is little doubt that they will continue to do so. Libraries have so much competition from bookstores and the Web that they need to make sure they stay on top of emerging technologies. Hiring nontraditional librarians is an excellent starting point.
- Lisa West · 1 year, 2 months ago
For LIS770 I visited my local library and interviewed the director. He had a very successful career and did great innovative things with his library. The library website, however, was ok. It wasn’t bad, it wasn’t great. He said when he had it designed, he wanted it to be simple, so that patrons at all ages and skill level could easily use it. He admitted that he needed help with modern tech skills and advocacy and was planning to hire someone who could help the library in that direction.
I agree with you that a poor website can leave a bad impression. For this recent election, I reviewed the websites of aldermen in my ward. If they did not have a website, I wrote them off right away because I felt that meant they were too out of touch with reality. As for the others, a bad website was better than none, but a good website could be a tipping point for some voters if all other factors were equal.
Hopefully, poor library websites aren’t turning off patrons. I admit that I sometimes find the Crown Library website exasperating. - Elaine Mernick · 1 year, 2 months ago
I agree that it’s always interesting to see what type of online presence a library has, even beyond its website. As I’ve made my way through this program, I’ve tried to step up my own use of technology so I can become more accustomed to the tools that are becoming so important in our profession. But I’ve also been a bit disappointed with what I find out there. Now that I know what is possible in terms of libraries having a presence on Facebook, Twitter, etc., I am frustrated when I can’t find a library or organization on those sites that I’d like to follow or hear more about. Even though I haven’t known about the possibilities for that long, it seems like such a missed opportunity to connect. If this lack of presence makes them seem out of touch to me, I can only imagine what members of the younger generation who have been online for their whole lives must think of organizations that have no (or, sometimes even worse, a poorly designed/managed) presence online.
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